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MisterB · Apr 02, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52

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Originally Posted by Alanus

You make them sound sooo good. WHy the hell don't I see them ANYWHERE?

PvP much? Paragons have had 3 nerfs because they were extremely effective in groups of 4+ or more. I still find a P/* spearchucker alot of fun for exactly the reasons Effigy stated.

On topic, I would prefer to throw spears with my Paragon, or use my Warrior with Sword, Axe, or Hammer. Looks like a fun build, though.

Crazyvietguy · Apr 03, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Osi Ri S

I bet this idea was sparked from the movie "300". i was gonna try something like this just for fun after seeing the movie

haha, I thought the same thing when i opened this thread. Too bad you cant switch the spear to melee.
I just tried it, I like it its different, I used the AB build introduced by Hole Sale uses.

Samuel Dravis · Apr 03, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by MisterB

PvP much? Paragons have had 3 nerfs because they were extremely effective in groups of 4+ or more. I still find a P/* spearchucker alot of fun for exactly the reasons Effigy stated.

Yep, me too. Spearthrowing is pretty fun, and the awesome IAS echo on P/ makes it very quick work.

clawofcrimson · Apr 30, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Paragons are greatly underestimated IMHO... I love playing mine.

FoxBat · May 02, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Constantly refreshing Anthem of Flame every 10 seconds to keep your agressive refrain up as you explore PvE can be a royal PITA. Not keeping it up constantly will generally start you off with 0 energy, which is limiting. So unless you want to sacrifice your elite for Soldier's Fury, that's enough reason to make a spear warrior for flail or the like.

Dfx Gladiator · May 02, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

this is bad. we have been over this. spear warriors are bad. not as bad as scythe warriors, but even worse than dagger warriors.

O rly? Try this then... I can kill an enemy in 15 seconds, if it doesn't have outer healing, like monks, etc...

[card]flail[/card] [card]barbed spear[/card] [card]merciless spear[/card] [card]blazing spear[/card] [card]spear of lightning[/card] [card]lion's comfort[/card] [card]charging strike[/card] [card]resurrection signet[/card]

16 Strengh
12 Spear
3 Tactics (addicional health for Lion's, not rly needed)

Charging Strike for great Speed Boost anytime, extra dmg in first attack and to cancel Flail when necessary. After you encounter the first enemy gather up 4 adrenaline then use Flail > Barbed Spear > Spear of Lightning > Blazing Spear > Merciless Spear > Spear of Lightning. Lion's is for healing if needed, only problem is that it makes your resurrection signet recharge so use it wisely.

It really works, DPS is amazing, and you can give any monk a hard time.

P.S: Try to use Spear of Lightning after Merciless Spear to trigger the Deep Wound, the dmg is incredible.

clawofcrimson · May 02, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Constantly refreshing Anthem of Flame every 10 seconds to keep your agressive refrain up as you explore PvE can be a royal PITA. Not keeping it up constantly will generally start you off with 0 energy, which is limiting. So unless you want to sacrifice your elite for Soldier's Fury, that's enough reason to make a spear warrior for flail or the like.

exactly the reason why I typically use 'GFTE' It will return some nice energy as well as give you some pretty decent +damage. by the time you need to use AR again.. you have plenty of energy... Focused anger+GFTE = exellent. You dont even have to skip a beat in the spearchucking. Not to mention that flail is also available to the p/w, refreshing every 5 seconds is not an issue. (especially with the movement speed)

there is just not enough in the strength line to make w/p better than p/w.

NinjaKai · May 02, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Personally I enjoy diversity. And if your in PvE with hench and heroes it doesn't really matter. While its true a Warrior spear thrower can't out do a Paragon spear thrower. It's more about fun than maximum damage output. I do wonder what its like for those closed minded people living inside their fish bowls.

clawofcrimson · May 02, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

lol ^ we create paragons and enjoy them.

It's true that in pve do whatever floats your boat. Fun is the name of the game. I often play a hammer paragon, or bow assassin, and Cursing monk.... when I play by myself. But if someone posts a build on a forum like this, it's because they are wanting feedback from others. So my feedback would be.... fun, but not the most effective. and.... Diversity = Different classes. It always makes me laugh when I see someone who always uses more skills from their secondary. Why not just make another class? I have a paragon for when I want to chuck spears, and a warrior for when I want to slash things.

but anyway, why show any criticism at all? cuz arent we all just having fuuun.....?

NinjaKai · May 02, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Reminds me of the time I made a Mo/P smite spear thrower. Good fun. Let the heroes do the healing for a change. XD

FoxBat · May 03, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

exactly the reason why I typically use 'GFTE'

I know this is the campfire, but I'm not completely stupid. (As one might have to be to neglect 'GFTE' or 'WY') The battle still starts with 5 energy assuming no DP. You can make flail work with focused anger, but that means you can't use stunning strike or some other elite. It's a good enough build but that's limiting. Yes, the Para has higher DPS, but some would rather not deal with the annoyance of managing agressive refrain when tromping through c+space. Kinda like how prot monks are better but people PvE with heal monks anyway since you can get away with just watching red bars. Or people run 55 SoJ for mindless troll farming pre-AI nerf when a cyclone/spiteful warrior was faster.

clawofcrimson · May 04, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

^ dont forget about the energy gain from GFTE. I am running full radiant (40ish energy) armour and with AR and GFET I am never lacking energy... even if I need to use AR every battle.

haggus71 · Jun 15, 2007, 11:28 AM // 11:28

As we all know, the primary job of the paragon is to lead the group. They are most effective when using their combo of shouts and chants. Their weapon is designed to attack from the second line because of this.

A warrior can(and does) have skills that can make it a better damage dealer with a spear than a paragon. It doesn't make them a better paragon. It can make them a better warrior in some situations. It also gives you the flexibility in some PvE and PvP situations to defend and give support to others(Imagine the suprise of the poor ele inside the purple gate in Ft Aspenwood when the warrior is pegging him on the upper tier). Flexibility always makes you better(learned that getting shot at).

Yes, you can get Flail and other warrior skills as a paragon. Strength you can't get, however, which, in DFX Gladiator's build, would give an 18 second duration as opposed to 5 seconds for wimpy 0. and no shouts or chants to maintain.

personally, I got to lvl 20 as a W/P with no issues, and I had a lot of fun with it. As with everything, it's not the weapon, it's the man behind the trigger. keep innovating!

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 19, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

wretchman drake love your builds
and also.....DUDE do you know how cool your armor looks, i now love vabbian war helm!

innovation is great, look how we came up with the thumper and N/Rt SR abuse =]. i want to try that W/D build, it looks like tons of fun with flourish.

W/P spear chucker has always looked pretty cool to me, time to start pvping again =] a warrior with command line can be great, axe or hammer (i like hammer, KD, Awe, Gfte! Gotta love hammer base dmg!).

afrika18 · Jun 21, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46

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Originally Posted by Dfx Gladiator

O rly? Try this then... I can kill an enemy in 15 seconds, if it doesn't have outer healing, like monks, etc...

Are you kidding me? It takes you 15 seconds to kill an enemy? Pardon my French, but you suck. I can kill an enemy in 1 second regardless of what healing he has. How dare you brag when you clearly have no understanding of this...beautiful....marvelous....(struggles to remain composed)...Game. You obviously have little regard for the sanctity, I daresay, the hallowed nature of this Game! 500 years ago, I'd have had you burnt at the stake for what you said....

Any REAL player of this Game, can kill any enemy in 1 second. If it takes you 15 seconds to kill an enemy, you don't deserve to be playing this Game. ArenaNet should have a screening policy. You should have to first demonstrate competence before being allowed to partake of The Game's Magnificence. Pray I don't run into you online in GVG or PVP! Because I guaruntee you'll go down in LESS than a second, you sacrilegious, useless, dope-noob.

masta_yoda · Jun 22, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

i wouldnt take boa, could swap it for flail since ud be standing most of the time

Jennie · Feb 26, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52

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Originally Posted by afrika18

Are you kidding me? It takes you 15 seconds to kill an enemy? Pardon my French, but you suck. I can kill an enemy in 1 second regardless of what healing he has. How dare you brag when you clearly have no understanding of this...beautiful....marvelous....(struggles to remain composed)...Game. You obviously have little regard for the sanctity, I daresay, the hallowed nature of this Game! 500 years ago, I'd have had you burnt at the stake for what you said....

Any REAL player of this Game, can kill any enemy in 1 second. If it takes you 15 seconds to kill an enemy, you don't deserve to be playing this Game. ArenaNet should have a screening policy. You should have to first demonstrate competence before being allowed to partake of The Game's Magnificence. Pray I don't run into you online in GVG or PVP! Because I guaruntee you'll go down in LESS than a second, you sacrilegious, useless, dope-noob.

1 second? ppfff I have you beat. I can kill the whole system in a fraction of a second with the little x in the corner of the screen. I'm l33t!

ETA: Was searching around... wasn't paying attention to dates. My bad.

**Marty Silverblade** · Feb 26, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by Jennie

1 second? ppfff I have you beat. I can kill the whole system in a fraction of a second with the little x in the corner of the screen. I'm l33t!

Don't rez dead threads, this is 8 months old. Especially, since you haven't said anything of relevance.

Jaigoda · Feb 26, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

12charsftw..

Trvth Jvstice · Feb 27, 2008, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Since we're off topic and before all of these posts are deleted, what does the "12chars" comment I see everywhere refer to?